It's time to prioritize our children
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Let's place them where they belong
The days of taunting those preppy, crème de la crème male elite who frequent same-sex private schools like St. Paul’s are behind us. There’s no need to label those whom, with the help of daddy’s paychecque are proud owners of Jaguars, as “fags.” The discrimination of students attending of sex-segregated educational institution is on the verge of extinction. All of this is due to the increasingly popular appearances of sex-segregated elementary and high school establishments. The sudden rise of sex-segregation among elementary and junior high schools is a rather refreshing improvement, considering the educational system’s lack of success over the past few years. This practice of sex-segregation is the key to triggering the student’s stimulus to learn in a productive manner.
Statistics taken from the Freeport News, claim that in a radius of five years, the percentage of success of Australian males who attend same-sex schools has improved from 15 to 22 per cent, when compared to their male counterparts who attend co-ed establishments. Reader’s Digest Canada claims that this movement is improving the students’ success rates — “the percentage of students passing final exams has jumped from 65 per cent to 87 per cent; and the proportion of advancing to university preparation, from 17 per cent to 30 per cent.” These are examples of the many findings proving that while simplistic, separating students by sex is highly effective in planting a seed of self-determination within the students themselves. Motivated by these samples, the USA Today reports that North Carolina’s school divisions are reforming —nearly 200 of their schools are single-sex, and an additional 192 are following suit.
The prioritization of reforming schools, which has emerged in the U.S. due to the Bush administration’s No Child Left Behind Act, hits home equally for us north of the border.
I believe that the North American educational establishment’s inability to reach out towards male students while they are in the early stages of their academic career is one factor which could explain why only 13 per cent of male Manitobans attend post-secondary education, compared to 17 per cent of females. This statistic is similar throughout the West. Failure to engage the males during the elementary phase often leads to resentfulness of self as well as resentfulness towards the institution they partake in. This sense of resentfulness may explain their preference for manual labour (such as construction work) in favour of post-secondary education.
Segregating the males from the females demonstrates the belief that men learn differently from their co-ed counterparts. Teachers would serve their cause to greater effect if they capitalized on the opportunity to work one-on-one with males, without the intrusion of females. I find young males between the ages of seven and 13, tend to react more positively to hands-on learning, preferring the use of interactive teaching techniques. Applying these techniques reduces the feeling of angst among young males. The process of using hands-on learning, will help the solidification of the young male’s comfort zone within the school’s environment, decreasing the level of distress and desperation among male individuals.
The same-sex environment helps strengthen the unison and kinship among young males. Lest we forget the humiliation of the first (and numerous) times we failed to attract the opposite sex; or even worse, when our failures are matched by the success of our immediate friends who succeed in getting the girl behind the school’s shed. The omission of a female’s presence, which would otherwise bring forth the male’s need in becoming the alpha male, instead fosters camaraderie amongst one another.
The sense of kinship among young males helps those who would otherwise feel inferior in comparison to other males find a sense of belonging among classmates, degenerating the otherwise found social hierarchy found in co-ed schools. The sense of pride associated with “being part of the group” helps strengthening male self-esteem once confronting the opposite sex at social events. This justifies certain males’ need of wingmen once confronting females. It is safe to presume that an individual is more prone to success once confronting the opposite sex at a social event, if partaking within a group, than partaking individually.
Whether socially or academically, the use of same-sex classrooms improves the probability of boys’ success in life. As stated above, same-sex environments seem to increase males’ probability of achieving a post-secondary education. It all depends on the instructor’s ability to plant the seed of one’s determination of academic achievements as early as possibility. The instructor’s success of planting such a seed is often lost while teaching in co-ed classrooms (favouring the stereotypically studious females over the presumed passive males.) Segregation leads to the separate conditioning of both sexes, improving the success rates of individual males. It is not solely due to the lack of distraction occurring between sexes, but more so to the consequential need of applying the preferred teaching methods affiliated in same sex educational institutions. Isn’t a brighter education for our children worth segregating for?
Patrick Gratton is an Arts student majoring in Film Studies.
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"There’s no need to label those whom, with the help of daddy’s paychecque are proud owners of Jaguars, as “fags.” The discrimination of students attending of sex-segregated educational institution is on the verge of extinction. "
The writer here is not using the term in a derogative form, nor does he feel that way at all. I'm an openly gay, a proud homosexual and the author, Patrick, happens to be one of my dearest friends. Patrick is one of the least homophobic people i know.
When he writes "...with the help of daddy’s paychecque are proud owners of Jaguars, as “fags.” ". he is not expressing his personal thoughts, he is quoting the general homophobic remarcs of highschool kids, as we have all witnessed.
Patrick asked me to read this before sending it in and asked me what i thought. I told him that the article was good and that he did a good job. Neither of us thought that it would impact the GLBT community in this way. The article was deffinately not intended to hurt or upset anyone.
Patrick called me today and told me that the readers of the Manitoban had missunderstood his article and his quote as a homophobic remarc and said that he was completely sorry that that had happened.
And to angrily point out all the mistakes in his article was really rude. At least Patrick is trying to partake in student life instead of just making over sensitive judgemenet on others articles. There is one point where we have to realise that just because someone QUOTED something with the word fag in it, does not mean he himself, or the publication is homophobic.
Thanks
-Jonas Desrosiers
There is no indication
There is no indication anywhere in the article that shows us that this word is being used in sex-segregated schools. The sentence has no relevance to the rest of the article. Many more better words could have been used. There was no need to use the word "fag".
If he was "he is quoting the general homophobic remarcs of highschool kids", where is his citation? As anyone who has taken an Intro University 1 course, stating things that are "common knowledge" and not using a citation because it is supposedly "common knowledge" does not help support an article.
"There is one point where we have to realise that just because someone QUOTED something with the word fag in it, does not mean he himself, or the publication is homophobic."
I see no citation, I see nothing indicating this is a quote of any kind. Sorry, I don't really care if he's your friend, or if he is upset about the incident, especially if you're going to defend something like this with such a flimsy argument. If this is a quote out of something, where is the proof to show that this is a quote/citation?
Manitoban fee is $6
Hey all, I wanted to avoid jumping into the fray, but just want to clarify that the Manitoban student fees are approximately $6 per year. The university has changed the way fees are collected so it's actually less for most students. To put that in perspective, UMSU student fees are about $53 and UMFM fees are $5 per year.
Is there so little going on
Is there so little going on in the world that we need to write stories about discrimination against people who go to sex-segregated institutions? The fact that we are even using the term discrimination to refer to this is disturbing. Add to that the use of the word "fag" in that context and you have one angry reader. Instead of using the word "fag" in this article, why doesn't somebody write about the continued homophobia on this campus? There is certainly no shortage of REAL discrimination to write about at U of M and in Winnipeg. Let's start writing about that.
While I doubt that it was the intention of the author to use this in a homophobic way, I would have expected the editors to use better judgement here.
I Agree
The sentence itself really had no bearing on the article at all, I don't quite understand why it had to be put in. Don't most of us learn that irrelevant material in an article should be omitted? Shouldn't the editor's board have been competent enough to remember this as well as whatever sensitivity training they should have gone through? (I'm only assuming they went to sensitivity training, but I would have thought after the last incident involving this same word, it would be mandatory).
What's more disgusting, is rather than apologizing, the Manitoban just asks us to write articles for THEM that they can censor and edit however they want. This incident is only going to escalate by the time Monday rolls around, because of their refusal to apologize to the gay community on campus.
But clearly, why would they care? At least 8 of the 10 editors certainly don't care enough about the GLBTT students on campus.
We care about the GLBTT
We care about the GLBTT students on campus. Some great friends of mine are gays and lesbians. I wish them no more struggle in their lives in a society that struggles to treat them with respect. However, I also care very strongly about freedom of speech and freedom of the press. If Pat wants to say that, we will let him. Although we cannot divorce ourselves from the responsibility of printing the word "fag", we pride ourselves on being a paper that can and will print dicey, better yet, offensive content. If we allow ANY student group to control content, we are held captive. It's the exact same as the far right saying we can't talk about the cons of the bail-out in the paper. We had no malicious intent, obviously, because hate speech has no place in an enlightened society nor in an enlightened paper. The Manitoban understands and cares about the fact that you were offended, however we reserve the right to offend you. The world is offensive. Censorship in any genus leads to a homo genius existence with amendments placed on hard earned freedoms.
You have the "right" to offend now?
So now you have a "right" to offend us?
Have you ever heard of the concept, "The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes?
You have no such right, and to even think freedom of speech allows you to undo other rights is beyond laughable.
The moment you "pride" yourself on being offensive, especially in this regard, it is no wonder people define you as homophobic. Your first statement, "We care about the GLBTT students on campus" is entirely a moot point if you say so boldly you pride yourself on the fact you are allowed to offend us...
This isn't about a student group trying to control your content, this is about protecting the rights of a minority, which you obviously pride in the fact you can undermine them.
I am offended sir that you can be so ignorant, and hope in time you understand the gravity of your words.
-Aaron
Well sir, by calling me
Well sir, by calling me ignorant you have offended me. Let's call the whole thing even eh?
If you are calling the Manitoban homophobic, you obviously don't know us as people. We are not vile monsters to spew rhetoric at, we are intelligent and caring people. No where else have I worked with such warm receptive people. Amongst us are some of the most free thinking and caring people I have found. One of our editors is even an inspiration to me in regards to understanding and empathy towards GLBTT students. They still voted to keep "fag" in.
Yes we have the right to offend you, because we have the right to print free speech. It is dangerous, but it is free. With censorship we risk losing the freedoms great men lived to build and great men died to protect.
Next we'll be putting jeans on greek sculptures to protect the minority of the evangelical right.
I do not have the right to be malicious, or violent, which we at the 'toban are not. We believe in a progressive, empathic and understanding philosophy but above that we appeal to freedom.
In response to your Holme's quotation, I found another in regards to the use of "fag" in Pat's article ;"Time, time only, can gradually wean us from our Epeolatry, or word-worship, by spiritualizing our ideas of the thing signified" -- Oliver Wendell Holmes
Called Ignorant =/= being defamed
I really, really cannot believe you you just compared being called ignorant, a term I would've used myself to describe the people involved in this situation, to a homophobic epithet (in this case, "fag"), which has the sole purpose of defaming an entire minority for no reason other than to insult, hurt, and label people as lesser humans. Fitting that you would support the Manitoban with such a poorly constructed argument and try to call for a truce because you were called ignorant. The nerve of Aaron to do that!
Why, that would be like calling an African American student the N word, and when he called you a bigot, you say "well I'm deeply offended, but let's just call it even ok?" If you see something wrong with this, then perhaps you have a problem in seeing that if you replace "African American" with "homosexual" and "N word" with "fag" is the EXACT SAME THING.
"If you are calling the Manitoban homophobic, you obviously don't know us as people. We are not vile monsters to spew rhetoric at, we are intelligent and caring people."
I don't think anyone called you intelligent or careless. People have called you ignorant, and rightfully so. You are ignorant (willfully or not) as to what is appropriate speech to use in a public medium. Do you know what would've been FAR less offensive?
"There’s no need to label those whom, with the help of daddy’s paychecque are proud owners of Jaguars, as homosexuals".
There, done. Far less offensive. I ask again, would you be so quick to defend the Manitoban's "right" to keep the word in if instead of "fag" it said the N word or something anti-semetic, or something insulting to Asians?
"Yes we have the right to offend you, because we have the right to print free speech"
May I direct your attention to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#Canada where NUMEROUS cases have gone to court and won because someone thought they had the "right to offend someone". Granted, what the Manitoban has done is no where NEAR as offensive as what the people in those court cases did, but the principle is the same: You do NOT have the right to offend someone. Freedom of speech only goes so far. Once you start stepping on the toes of others (defaming others) then that's where freedom of speech stops.
I'm sorry you think otherwise, and I pity you if you truly think you have the right to offend people. Perhaps I should make an effort to defame the Manitoban in public with pamphlets and brochures that insult the editors and their credentials. I mean, that would be ok right? Freedom of speech says I can offend and insult. That is what you claim, right?
Oh, and by the way, I enjoyed this little tidbit. "Next we'll be putting jeans on greek sculptures to protect the minority of the evangelical right."
You realize that is a slippery slope fallacy right? I would've thought that someone who would so readily defend the Manitoban would do so without the use of fallacies. You know this only detracts from your argument, it does not support it, right?
Re: Is there so little going on
Hello Anne,
This debate, and the problems you've brought up are being debated in lenght here: http://www.themanitoban.com/online/blogs/grammar-gripes/yeah-we-printed
Only one problem with that
Only one problem with that discussion...it got locked
Excuse me?
Excuse me....
"There’s no need to label those whom, with the help of daddy’s paychecque are proud owners of Jaguars, as “fags.”"
Since when is the Manitoban associated with people who would so flippantly drop one of the greatest and most prolific slurs of our generation? To top it off... this line has little to no bearing on the article and has a spelling error...
Part of my student fee's goes towards the Manitoban, yet it is printing this? I am offended... how could this have ever passed editing? How could any single person who read this not get the big RED FLAGS about liability.
By referring to us, who are homosexual as fags, even in quotation, just as a POINT about some rich Catholic boys, is against University Policy, and can even be grounds of harassment.
I had a lot more respect for this paper before this....
-Aaron
Hi Aaron, Since the last
Hi Aaron,
Since the last forum was locked from comments I would like to invite you to discuss your issues with the article as well as your problems with my opinions at The Manitoban's Open House on Wednesday November 26th, 2008.
You seem to feel very strongly about the issue, enough so that you would accuse people of hurtful acts and label them awful things. It may be more constructive to discuss this in person and attempt to find a solution than to deride people on an internet forum.
I look forward to seeing you there!
To features...
Dear Ms. Beaudette,
I would certainly like to give us both the opportunity to understand each other in an open environment, I have strong opinions, and I wouldn't want to rob you of the opportunity to change them. At the same time, I am hoping in my fervour, even though we disagreed you can grasp at or perhaps understand where I am coming from. I was also hoping you could be so kind to tell me what time the Open House is, I do have classes that take priority, but should I have the ability I would enjoy to talk to you outside of an anonymous medium where written word can be misunderstood, and intent not always clear.
I also want to thank you, the staff at the Manitoban, and other students for taking the time to read what I had to say, and hope we can all reach a resolution to the debate that satisfies all parties.
Sincerely,
Aaron
Good job Pat! Its good!
Good job Pat!
Its good!